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  • topcattopcat July 2005
    Here's something totally unremarkable... except that it will demonstrate how changing one part in the vocal group can color the whole sound. Canadian stations were having Series 42A "The Igniters" sung at PAMS in 1972/1973. In order to bring out that authentic sound... including the language French, PAMS brought in Celine Dessault to sing the lead female vocals for CJRC and lead the group. You can really tell the difference when they use the stock "golden" in the donut in one of the cuts vs this group singing their own thing.

    I'll leave it to you, the listener, to decide if you like the sound. Without Jackie Dickson on lead, personally, I thought it sucked. I wasn't fond of this package (nor Series 43) to begin with. This particular package was produced on March 10, 1972.

    http://www.jingles.org/cjrc_42.mp3

    -TC
  • BrianBrian July 2005
    Formerly a "Web Of Trust Nominated Collector"?????????? :oops:

    Hey TC what's happened?
  • PaulMc wrote: I noticed that today too... care to share with us TC?



    Hey, if you guys would just LOOK at his post, you'll see he's GRADUATED to "Superstar Poster!!!" Be more observant, children.
  • Are we saying this was a DEMOTION???
  • JingleMadJingleMad July 2005
    Jeffrey_T_Mason wrote: Are we saying this was a DEMOTION???



    It could be. I wonder will we hear why?
  • BrianBrian July 2005
    Jeffrey_T_Mason wrote:

    Be more observant, children.



    Less of the child stuff please. It was an observation based on the fact that someone who isn't classed as a web of trust collector anymore maybe isn't to be trusted, not that it applies to TC of course.
    There are some members who have got large collections and who haven't got to the dizzy heights of WOTC because of their poor trading record.
  • Thanks to TC for a very interesting post, this must be the worst PAMS re-sing I have ever heard! Almost as bad as the EAP re-sings

    :x

    Well not quite but I have always said there is something about the Dallas sound that can not be equalled by anyone else
  • topcattopcat July 2005
    martinlester wrote: Thanks to TC for a very interesting post, this must be the worst PAMS re-sing I have ever heard! Almost as bad as the EAP re-sings.



    Oh trust me... there are some other bad sings in the library also. I just saw this package on a CD I was filing, and remembered how bad it was from when I transferred the reel years ago.

    -TC
  • topcattopcat July 2005
    PaulMc" wrote:
    Are we saying this was a DEMOTION???



    It could be. I wonder will we hear why?



    It was just a database glitch... but I couldn't resist on commenting on it. I just got my avatar working again. :)

    -TC
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    One of the PAMS packages which everyone seemed to buy one cut from is Energy One. The cut... the PAMS Shotgun. While combing through some reels, I found WROK's Energy One. Even through the thousands of reels of PAMS references I've listened to... there are some cuts I've never heard sung for anyone other than the pilot station. Some of these cuts fall into that catagory. So... for your listening pleasure, I present selected cuts from WROK PAMS Energy One... from the PAMS 15ips reference master......

    http://www.jingles.org/wrokpams.mp3

    -TC
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    Here's another goody from the tapes... WRVU Nashville's PAMS Composite. Included are cuts from Series 37, 39 and Stereo Island. Also... the last cuts are part of their acapella grid. Note on the last cut that they kept an extra pot open... so you can hear both "sings" of the call letters before it joins the end tag. That should spell out how a grid works! (grin)

    http://www.jingles.org/wrvupams.mp3

    Enjoy...

    -TC
  • ronfilronfil August 2005
    Great Post TC!
    Keep the Jingles a Comin!!!

    RT
    http://www.famous56.com
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    ronfil wrote: Great Post TC!
    Keep the Jingles a Comin!!!



    Glad you enjoyed it, Ron.

    Okay... back in the G(olden) days... ya know, before computers, the internet, CDs and so on... all of the demos were sent out on 5" reels (known in the industry as "Salesmen Reels"). In fact, in those days, many companies salespeople actually showed up at your station with a suitcase full of demo reels to sit in your production studio and listen to with you.

    Now... You've heard the jingles... you've decided to buy a modern package... but how do you want it sung? Do you want the WABC logo? ...the KLIF logo? ...and so on. C'mon... You're all geeks... you KNOW what these different logo/signatures are. The program directors didn't. So -- PAMS used to send out a little 5" reel to reel tape with logo samples on it... and here's the 1964 version with the cuts "Tightened Up"!

    Enjoy...

    http://www.jingles.org/pamssigs.mp3

    :)
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    I make no bones about the fact that I was unimpressed by the PAMS product after 1973ish. In addition to the "numbered" series, PAMS did a number of customs... including a bunch for WLS. KCBQ in San Diego came to PAMS and had the 1976 WLS pkg sung. The logo doesn't fit the tracks... and the singers suck................... other than that, this is a great example of the final years of PAMS. Take a listen and let me know YOUR thoughts!

    http://www.jingles.org/kcbqls76.mp3

    -TC
  • OnyxPaulOnyxPaul August 2005
    Oh dear, yes. Crapola!
  • ratnobratnob August 2005
    Just shows how the conditions were right for JAM to come in and storm the market. I always find this period of PAMS a bit sad, hearing how a once-great company kind of lost the plot. Thanks for posting, TC.
  • petewilsonpetewilson August 2005
    Yep I totally agree....
    Personally I think it all went wrong after Series 43 :(
    (But I did like Regal Logos) :lol:
  • ratnobratnob August 2005
    Me too - loved the Regal IDs
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    petewilson wrote: But I did like Regal Logos :lol:



    The Regalogos demo, citing the fact that it's got a unique logo, made me chuckle. Sure enough, some station (Hmmm... maybe WFLA?) had the package sung with their variable logo (which they said couldn't be done). So much for THAT theory.

    -TC
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    WPLJ New York, NY used jingles from JAM, TMCI, C21, HLC and others. Here's a quickie composite of some of the JAM cuts done in the eighties!

    http://www.jingles.org/wpljjam1.mp3

    -TC
  • RobinBlamiresRobinBlamires August 2005
    A top upload TC!
    Good to hear the variety of JAM jingles used on the station in addition to their custom packages.
  • ratnobratnob August 2005
    Yep, truly fascinating. I was in New York in the summer that WPLJ switched from a progressive rock format (no jingles, laconic links - I hated it, of course) to CHR. It must have been 1983, when Thriller was dominating the airwaves and Z-100 had turned the radio market on its head, and urban dance stations like WKTU were hugely popular. I recorded a long and cringe-making interview the station aired with its Program Director, Larry Burger (crazy name, crazy guy), in which he was clearly feeling the stress of loyal progressive rock listeners suddenly hearing Michael Jackson songs blasting out. I hadn't realised the station then used so many different jingles from different producers. Fascinating, as ever, TC - thanks for posting.
  • JingleMadJingleMad August 2005



    Tracy,

    Many thanks for that download. That is by far the best one you have posted.
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    JingleMad wrote: Many thanks for that download. That is by far the best one you have posted.



    Well I don't know 'bout that... but glad you enjoyed them. ...and since I'm awake and in an editing kinda mode... here are some more cuts for WPLJ from additional JAM packages from 1986-1989.

    http://www.jingles.org/wpljjam2.mp3

    -TC
  • petewilsonpetewilson August 2005
    topcat wrote: [Well I don't know 'bout that... but glad you enjoyed them. ...and since I'm awake and in an editing kinda mode... here are some more cuts for WPLJ from additional JAM packages from 1986-1989.

    http://www.jingles.org/wpljjam2.mp3

    -TC



    Thats cheered me up no end......Thanks Tracy...
    Some nice authentic Stereo JAM..Just what I needed! :D
  • JingleMadJingleMad August 2005
    TC -

    You get 5*****'s for those 'PLJ montages.

    Thanks for posting that rare classic JAM - got any more?

    -Sean
  • BigdaveBigdave August 2005
    A wet night here in Sheffield, but now I have some tasty JAM to go with the toast I've just made !

    Great stuff TC - that's another 5 stars from the UK jury to go with the Swiss vote ....
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    Geeze... As long as I'm getting five stars... Here's another little compilation before I erase them from the hard drives! These are cuts by JAM and PAMS for WABC New York. Enjoy!

    http://www.jingles.org/morewabc.mp3

    -TC
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    As we continue down our musical jingle adventure.... here are the basic cuts done for WPLJ New York, NY by HLC Killer Music in 1990 and 1991.

    http://www.jingles.org/wplj_hlc.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC
  • rjtrjt August 2005
    Those WPLJ montages are fantastic, thankyou so much.

    Richard
  • bulger23bulger23 August 2005
    I'm absolutely loving this stuff. Keep up the great work.


    Thanks!


    Rich
  • mbmb August 2005
    Love the PLJ stuff all those montages posted do everthing I think jingles should -still I'm a jingle luddite !!!!
  • m_hodgeym_hodgey August 2005
    :D Those WPLJ montages are great! Thanks Topcat!
  • joejinglesjoejingles August 2005
    Thanx Tracy for those goodies from my own backyard. Been wanting that stuff for a long time. In fact it seems so much of the JAM cuts never were aired, or very infrequently.
    Good days of jingles and CHR radio!
    Luv it,
    joe c
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    I'm glad everyone is enjoying this stuff. One last posting before I clear the 9 CDs of stuff from the hard drives. Here are selected cuts from TM Century's 1991 Custom (Jan 28, 1991) WPLJ New York, NY.

    http://www.jingles.org/wplj91tm.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC
  • ratnobratnob August 2005
    Fantastic, TC - these are a revelation to me.
  • petewilsonpetewilson August 2005
    topcat wrote: I'm glad everyone is enjoying this stuff. One last posting before I clear the 9 CDs of stuff from the hard drives. Here are selected cuts from TM Century's 1991 Custom (Jan 28, 1991) WPLJ New York, NY.

    http://www.jingles.org/wplj91tm.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC



    Nice One TC......
    Weren't they still Century 21 then?
    The vocals certainly sound like they were! :-)
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    petewilson wrote: Weren't they still Century 21 then?
    The vocals certainly sound like they were! :-)



    The lead sheet I have says TM Century. Your guess is as good as mine.

    Here are some cuts from WODS Boston - JAM Productions, Inc.

    http://www.jingles.org/wods_jam.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    Here are cuts from a custom package done by TM for FM802 on March 12, 1990. Enjoy!

    http://www.jingles.org/tm_fm802.mp3

    -TC
  • JingleMadJingleMad August 2005
    Thanks Tracy. You continue to bang them out. Many thanks.

    Some of those cuts later ended up in the KVIL '90 package. This was to make it more sellable to the US market.
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    It also makes sense to recycle the tracks and get some milage out of them. They're already "in the can" -- why not make some money with them.

    Here's something different... a few cuts from William Meeks Productions' KRLD Custom. The late Bill Meeks, founder of PAMS, had a few production companies after the demise of PAMS. These are from the mixdown master.

    http://www.jingles.org/krldnews.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC
  • petewilsonpetewilson August 2005
    He was a GREAT Man...But unfortunately can't say that about those Jingles :lol:
    Who on earth was singing them Tracy?
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    petewilson wrote: He was a GREAT Man...But unfortunately can't say that about those Jingles :lol:
    Who on earth was singing them Tracy?



    Who knows. The voices are marginal, at best. You should hear the rest of the cuts! (rolling eyes)

    On another note... I'm starting another quickie thread entitled Downloads from Jingles.Org with a summary of all of the jingle postings. We're up to 10 pages of good info here... but some folks just want the jingles w/o the commentary. So -- I'll periodically update the other thread with the new things I post HERE.
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    And now... for something different. The majority of the FairWest reels have been transferred... and have arrived spanning over 50 CDs (so far). So... I've picked a disc at random... and present to you selected cuts from.....

    KLCI Boise, Idaho - FairWest Hit Sounds I - March 10, 1984

    http://www.jingles.org/klcifwhs.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC
  • ratnobratnob August 2005
    Ah, now you're talking, TC. Fellow jingle funsters Young David Barras and Neal Bowden are, like me, big fans of FairWest and other Chris Kershaw incarnations (as Bob Dinan I once got some samplers from "Gemini" Productions). I have the KVIL version of these cuts. The mouth waters at the thought of fifty CDs worth of such material! Many thanks for posting.
  • TServo2049TServo2049 August 2005
    Yes, indeed, this FairWest stuff is good. Though perhaps TC could also give us a little taste of another side of FairWest...at some point in the early 80s, Dick Hamilton, the man behind all that great Heller stuff, as well as TM's "You," "Synergy," and the like, did some stuff for FairWest. From the little stuff I've heard, it was very very good...:)
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    From the FairWest collection... here are some examples of Xmas cuts that were cut in late 1983...

    http://www.jingles.org/fwxm1983.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    Here are a couple of examples from Boston's Continental Productions...

    1. "Enforcer" Demo - WGAN Portland, ME

    http://www.jingles.org/ContiEnf.mp3

    2. "WIP" Demo - WIP Philadelphia, PA

    http://www.jingles.org/cont_wip.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC
  • TMguyTMguy August 2005
    TC -

    Thanks a ton for the Fairwest cuts!

    If you ever "randomly pick" any WIBC or WNAP Indianapolis early to mid 80's Fairwest stuff, I'd love to hear it! Those two Fairbanks stations were huge with Heller during it's heyday, and later picked up Fairwest in that same spirit.

    It is interesting to note the similarities and differences between Fairwest and Heller.
  • topcattopcat August 2005
    Fairwest started because George Johns wanted the jingles he could no longer get from Heller... as Heller had moved to Spain at that point. The Fairwest stuff was on WVBF, KVIL, WXLO, WLKZ and WMAS-FM plus selected George Johns Classy clients.

    I'll post some when I've got the discs in-hand. Right now they're in my office being cataloged/databased.

    For something a little off the beaten track, here are some cuts for KOMA in Oklahoma City. They were produced in mono by CPMG over PAMS tracks at TM Century.

    http://www.jingles.org/komacpmg.mp3

    Enjoy!

    -TC

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