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BBC Local Radio is changing
  • Leicester change over at midday on Tuesday??
  • Most stations now have the new package. News, sport, weather, travel more or less the same in all areas. Shame there are so few variations this time.
  • VinnahVinnah September 2017
    BBC Radio Cambridgeshire still running Mcasso MK1. Are they the only station which has had the exact same Mcasso page since introduction? They've been running it for 6 years now. I suppose they don't like rotating imaging often because Music4 stuff was still sticking around until very recently.

    Also still strange things going on during Nick Risby on 3CR. Travel jingle and bed seems to be played from Suffolk but the Travel Out is 3CR's previous Mcasso package and voice overs.
  • RWRW September 2017
    Duplicated post.
  • RWRW September 2017
    Vinnah said:

    BBC Radio Cambridgeshire still running Mcasso MK1. Are they the only station which has had the exact same Mcasso page since introduction? They've been running it for 6 years now.


    Radio Merseyside have had the same news intro since late 2009, as have Radio Kent since May 2010, though the rest of their package was refreshed in 2014.

    So overall, it's Cambridgeshire, Guernsey, Hereford & Worcester, Jersey, Kent, Merseyside, Shropshire, Stoke, Surrey and Sussex that are still airing the pre-2015 jingles, though the travel bed currently used in Sussex and Surrey sounds similar to Radio Berkshire's travel bed from the new package.
  • VinnahVinnah September 2017
    That's interesting. I have only really just got back into listening to what BBC Local Radio are up to with their jingles. I listen to 3CR on regular basis for the programming but I grew disinterested with LR Jingle hunting once Mcasso came along. Do any of the 2015 refresh stations have wildly different news intros now or are they all basically the same?
  • RWRW September 2017
    The news intros are indeed basically all the same now - with one exception, Radio Cumbria, who for some reason have a completely different news intro that has pips running through it.
  • VinnahVinnah September 2017
    Just had a listen to that now. That's awful. It would have been okay if it never had the pips running through it. It sounds a bit more like the original Mcasso package.
  • IanFIanF September 2017
    It's like it was in the 1970's and early 80's. Beeb local 's cherry picking from various music packages although the difference this time it's one company sadly
  • star+tetleystar tetley September 2017
    RW said:

    The news intros are indeed basically all the same now - with one exception, Radio Cumbria, who for some reason have a completely different news intro that has pips running through it.



    Yes they are just using one of the programme beds with added pips. Seems strange but I assume with the pips it is intended for news.

  • GrahamCollinsGrahamCollins September 2017
    Agree with Vinnah - Cumbria must have one of the most lacklustre news builds on the network.... Sounds almost discordant to me.

    Someone sent me this package and it even includes a bed labeled 'Church Notice Board'. Talk about dull.....
  • dw1987ukdw1987uk February 2018
    BBC Essex have a slightly amended schedule today. They were already on the new Mcasso package, but they're now using the same news build as Cumbria (but without the pips). The problem is they're also using that music for all their programmes too!

    Up until now they had the same music/beds for all their programmes and a different one for the news. I suppose it gives the station an 'identity' but it's a bit samey having all programmes using the same.

    Still no travel bed.
  • VinnahVinnah February 2018
    Seems as if they're going out of their way to make an already limited package sound even more limited. Interesting to note that BBC Radio Cambridgeshire had a major schedule change some months ago and still use their original Mcasso package from 2011.
  • dw1987ukdw1987uk February 2018
    Yes, I don't think I've heard any other BBC stations using the same music/beds for all their programmes as well as the news.

    The one Essex is now using is also used for Eddie Nestor's drivetime on London, so people switching between Essex and London (possible in central/west Essex) during drivetime will hear almost no difference in identity.
  • star+tetleystar tetley February 2018
    I suppose the problem is that there is only one news cut so it is difficult to refresh the sound with this package. Essex have resorted to using a programme bed.
  • VinnahVinnah February 2018
    It's really strange that the BBC have gone for this. The original Mcasso whilst bland, had some variation and didn't sound too bad on some stations which used it well (BBC 3CR for example). This package is just the same old, same old no matter the station that's its on, though once again 3CR are making a good go of it.

    It seems really strange that Essex & Cumbria are using the programme bed for the news, it really sounds completely out of place and extremely amateur, it's almost like somebody is running an Internet station for the first time.

    There's then the opposite on the likes of BBC Berkshire which seems to be using bits & pieces all over the place, some bits of the new Mcasso package, some bits of the old Mcasso package and other bits which don't seem to be from any of the Mcasso packages, it's really strange. Then there's the others out there like BBC Cambridgeshire who are still on their completely unchanged package from day one of Mcasso.

    Either they're going for a consistent sound or they're not, but it's all over the place as it is and has been so since the generic package appeared several years ago. Maybe with the changes, the BBC might revert to allowing stations to commission their own jingles as before.
  • IainJohnstonIainJohnston February 2018
    No wonder even staid old "Auntie BBC" BBC Radio Scotland went to Reelworld Europe custom instead of these dirges !

    Part of the "idea" of the "in house contracted" McCasso stuff was that the BBC could "earn" royalties from the sale of
    resings or whatever of the packages to clients in other countries.

    Can someone remind me - how many non-UK stations have these been "syndicated" to so far ????
  • simon_t123simon_t123 March 2018
    I think part of the idea with Mcasso was that the BBC owned all rights so that rather than royalties from resale the BBC (BBC Worldwide) actually get paid royalties every time one of it's LR stations plays a Mcasso cut ... There's an industry funding scheme that had limited success of production houses putting up free jingle production for stations whilst awaiting royalties for plays in return ...

    Not sure what Essex are on dropping that all-powerful generic news build but using a weaker programme menu for a news intro doesn't seem right ...

    And still, since 'call the boss' some 5/6 years back had an older listener say he couldn't hear the travel for the bed there's no use of travel beds in Essex, other than ... Eastern regional programming it produces on a Sunday ! Which seems to feature the wrong edit of the travel out stab (the up key B-B-C rather than the down key B-B-C) ... Not great :/
  • RWRW November 2018
    Radio Kent have finally changed over to the 'new' Mcasso jingle package this week. That leaves Surrey, Sussex, Cambridgeshire, Jersey, Hereford & Worcester and Merseyside who are all still using the pre-2015 jingles.
  • mbmb November 2018
    I've not met many fans of the Mcasso "2" package more of a resigned fact that it is what it is.
    Mcasso seem to be very in bed with the BBC producing the new sound identity for BBC Sounds - It sounds more like a Giraffee farting but I'm sure there was much angst over its production and sound.
    I was told the core problem is it is written by people who don't seem to understand how Beds, Ramps, Stabs are constructed and hence when cut up for practical use jar and don't work. But the commercial deal/terms is so poor with BBC Worldwide taking writing credit there is virtually no profit in writing, producing or the contunued airplay of jingles.
    Maybe with the station being "more" local in thie rapproach and "different" the single package will get dropped.
    Its sad that BBC local radio now now sounds older and more dreary than every before - with the new changes from OFCOM virtually wiping out Commercial local radio they could step up and be more general but locally focussed and get some listeners under 75 but they need to understand that thier demographic now grew up with Capital, Picadilly, Radio 1, Radio 2 etc you can be bright and modern without sounding like background funeral parlor musak!
  • IainJohnstonIainJohnston November 2018
    "but they need to understand that...you can be bright and modern without sounding like background funeral parlor musak!"

    Exactly!
    And since "staid" BBC Radio Scotland avoided McCasso like the proverbial, and went to Reelworld Europe, it CAN be done
    - AND use BBC in-house musicians to do the strings and brass and do the recording of those elements just a few hundred
    yards from the BBC's front door.

    What/why DO BBC in England persist with McCasso if they are people who really don't understand the "product" that they
    are supposed to be producing?

    The original "financial benefit" of using McCasso appears to have evaporated a long time ago.
  • star+tetleystar tetley January 18
    Treasure Quest for 3CR/Northampton has a new sung jingle with bed.
  • IainJohnstonIainJohnston January 18
    Heard BBC Radio Cumbria last week - was like pre relaxed-needletime days with a presenter repeating the same
    words /phrases several times each long link, long phone-in competitions, and the Mcasso "jingles" purely instrumental
    and buried under insipid V/o's.

    However, commercial rival CFM had a sung tag to go on the generic Bauar no-sing semi-promos that we get subjected
    to up here.

    "Where have all the jingles gone...." ?
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF January 30
    BBC 3CR have finally completed their painfully slow refresh (using Mcasso 2015 and some irritating ticking travel and weather bed).
    Sounds like JVS has had his custom made (it took several months to get them perfect because up until Tuesday he was using the old voiceovers and jingles). He is a perfectionist, refused to play the new GDPR jingle (I don't blame him)

    Work to replace the old jingles started in October and was painfully slow. First programme stabs and jingles, then the news and travel, finally Treasure Quest and The JVS Show. Sunday Breakfast, The Health Show, The All Request Hour (Sat Breakfast) and Three Counties Sport weekend programmes still use old voiceover branding, as well as the regional phone in jingle. What a sloppy, slow roll-out.

    I've got used to the new voiceover, it's just the new voiceovers. They're dreadful (in my opinion). The female can't pronounce Roberto correctly (Roberta?!) and the male one, who is now also prominent on the news jingle, just says the station frequencies and name.

    It's like he's just saying it, no real 'announcement' or real 'style', he's just speaking. What a poor choice, surely there are better voiceover artists more suited to this type of job?!


    And don't get me started on the new trail voiceover. Even worse than the main voiceovers, sounds like he is pinching his nose when narrating! Rant over!
  • VinnahVinnah January 31
    When you think of what BBC Three Counties radio sounded like pre 2011 it's not even close now.

    I don't get why they've messed with the travel bed, the previous one sounded better and was still part of the 2015 Mcasso pack. Surely one of the stations will go for its own jingle package before long? There are custom beds appearing here and there.

    BBC Cambridgeshire are still on the original Mcasso package.
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF January 31
    I have no idea where the new travel jingle and bed comes from. Berkshire use it so do Sussex (or Surrey), it doesn't have any sonic logos. Just ticking.

    Speaking of BBC Cambridge, the regional phone in jingle is voiced by the same male as the old 3CR jingles. On a Saturday Night, BBC Kent also has the same v/o on their phone in jingle. Up until recently, both were using the old packages, might have something to do with it?
  • VinnahVinnah February 4
    That Travel jingle has been around for while, in fact BBC Berkshire have used it for a very long time even with the previous Mcasso package.

    BBC Cambridgeshire seem to hang on to things for ages. Richard Spendlove still had various Music4 era Jingles\Voiceovers on his show.
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF February 4
    If you listen to the 3CR/Northampton Treasure Quest (broadcast from 3CR) the news jingle for Northampton is the same as Berkshire's.

    The Treasure Quest 'theme' is the Andrew Peach show 'theme', confirming my suspicions that the station sound producer who works on Berkshire most definitely works on 3CR. What a shame

    A side note - BBC Berkshire doesn't seem to have a consistent news ID. Seems to be a sports reporter hurriedly promoting a football match commentary or something to that effect.
    The only consistent news jingle I've heard is the recycled 15 second job from the old network evening show.

    BBC Cambridgeshire's news jingle and voiceovers really do sound bland and dull. Haven't aged well
  • star+tetleystar tetley February 19
    As well as the sung jingles for Andrew Peach and Treasure Quest, also now for WM Breakfast. Not sure where these are suddenly appearing from??
  • JustMattRadioJustMattRadio February 20
    Cambridgeshire refreshed last week, taking the 2015 imaging set. They use a rather overstretched 'strings bridge' version of the news logo with no talk up.

    Most shows use the same opener music bed with the VO saying just 'BBC Radio Cambridgeshire' - the presenter then introduces themselves, talks and then finishes this off with out cue a same style short ID giving the broadcast areas.

    The travel intro and bed, don't actually mention the word 'travel' or 'travel news'! Most odd!

    Hereford and Worcester have delayed their refresh until they have ViLOR sorted 100%. Susses with take the 2015 branding later in 2019.

    The travel news track that Berks, Sussex, Surrey use it a track from another Production Company. They are not actually meant to stray from the cooperate sound of Mcasso. They idea according to my contact is that all stations sound the same except for their voice-over artist,

    The BBC in January also commissioned another set of jingles with a 'clean bandit' for the new local evening shows, these are being rolled out throughout the coming months.
  • rakrak February 21
    I quite like the Travel bed on SUSSEX/SURREY. Stands out from the Mcasso stuff.
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF February 26
    So I have an update regarding BBC 3CR's dreadful new imaging.

    I have tracked the new station sound producer down, he is from BBC Berkshire as I thought. No mention of working at/for Three Counties on his overfilled LinkedIn page or his twitter account.
    The worst thing, by far, about 3CR's new imaging is the VO on the trails. Sounds corny and amateurish. Surprise, surprise, the station sound producer does his own VOs. It's also clear he hasn't actually listened to any shows from 3CR, the trails don't match up at all to the content or style of the shows they're promoting.

    People have been ringing into the breakfast show lodging formal complaints about the 'new jingles', so I think the management are aware about the mess this has caused. A great station, ruined by poor imaging.

    So the current situation at 3CR is we have three variants of male and female voiceover, some random travel and weather beds, and some bland, dull jingles for Treasure Quest and The JVS Show. 7 Shows still have old VOs (the decent ones), whilst all the others have had new VOs bodged in poorly. Nearly all stand in presenters still have old VOs, so when the bank holiday rolls around, it will sound even more of a disaster. Rant over (for now)!


    Moving on from 3CR, onto Cambs and H&W

    Cambridgeshire is okay.. news ID is a bit dragged out, travel is also a little slow, listeners will get tired of it quickly.

    H&W use 2015 imaging on 'The Evening Show' and their sport commentaries, so would think new imaging is being prepared right now.

    As a sidenote, BBC Radio Leeds have begun the transition from Radioman to ViLoR/Dira!, the last station to do so. The network is now fully ViLoR.
  • star+tetleystar tetley February 26
    JasonRNF said:

    So I have an update regarding BBC 3CR's dreadful new imaging.

    I have tracked the new station sound producer down, he is from BBC Berkshire as I thought. No mention of working at/for Three Counties on his overfilled LinkedIn page or his twitter account.
    The worst thing, by far, about 3CR's new imaging is the VO on the trails. Sounds corny and amateurish. Surprise, surprise, the station sound producer does his own VOs. It's also clear he hasn't actually listened to any shows from 3CR, the trails don't match up at all to the content or style of the shows they're promoting.

    People have been ringing into the breakfast show lodging formal complaints about the 'new jingles', so I think the management are aware about the mess this has caused. A great station, ruined by poor imaging.

    So the current situation at 3CR is we have three variants of male and female voiceover, some random travel and weather beds, and some bland, dull jingles for Treasure Quest and The JVS Show. 7 Shows still have old VOs (the decent ones), whilst all the others have had new VOs bodged in poorly. Nearly all stand in presenters still have old VOs, so when the bank holiday rolls around, it will sound even more of a disaster. Rant over (for now)!


    Moving on from 3CR, onto Cambs and H&W

    Cambridgeshire is okay.. news ID is a bit dragged out, travel is also a little slow, listeners will get tired of it quickly.

    H&W use 2015 imaging on 'The Evening Show' and their sport commentaries, so would think new imaging is being prepared right now.

    As a sidenote, BBC Radio Leeds have begun the transition from Radioman to ViLoR/Dira!, the last station to do so. The network is now fully ViLoR.



    Where is the new Treasure Quest/JVS stuff from?
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF February 26
    Still investigating...

    On the same note: Treasure Quest did have another jingle package that they used for just a week. It was mental - had eagles (?) screeching in the background, I'll upload it when I get a chance.

    The other TQ package sounded far better than the latest one, just needed to get rid of the Eagle noises!
  • Paul+MPaul M February 26
    Hi

    Wonder if anyone could help me ? Has anyone got any of either the 30' or 60' BBC Local Radio News Builds in the clear. Have been trying to get these for ages/ Your help would be very much appreciated . I believe there may be and I might be worng different ones for different stations

    Thankyou very very much
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF February 26
    Hi

    Wonder if anyone could help me ? Has anyone got any of either the 30' or 60' BBC Local Radio News Builds in the clear. Have been trying to get these for ages/ Your help would be very much appreciated . I believe there may be and I might be worng different ones for different stations

    Thankyou very very much


    Hi Paul,

    I have both the 2015 30 second and 60 second news builds. Send me a private message if interested

    And yes, there are 4 different news builds from the 2015 package. Some stations, like Kent & Cambridge, have modified versions of their own, but the majority of the network uses the same.

    Jason
  • mbmb February 26
    Was listening to BBC Radio London - I don't think I've heard imaging as bad since Network FM Student radio in Leeds in 1993. Chopped up, faded out, it;s just a shambolic mess
  • star+tetleystar tetley February 26
    mb said:

    Was listening to BBC Radio London - I don't think I've heard imaging as bad since Network FM Student radio in Leeds in 1993. Chopped up, faded out, it;s just a shambolic mess


    Kent is a mess as well. News in chopped up and talked all over...then into travel with a trail... then news in used as a show opener. I know there is not much to work with but some stations are making a right mess of it.

  • JasonRNFJasonRNF February 26
    Essex also use the a programme bed as a news jingle.. and a programme bed! Incredible really.

    Radio Stoke (off the top of my head) have also butchered the news ID. Combining the first and second versions. Awful, awful, awful!!
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  • JustMattRadioJustMattRadio February 27
    mb said:

    Was listening to BBC Radio London - I don't think I've heard imaging as bad since Network FM Student radio in Leeds in 1993. Chopped up, faded out, it;s just a shambolic mess



    London's new mixes were done by On The Sly


  • JasonRNFJasonRNF February 27

    mb said:

    Was listening to BBC Radio London - I don't think I've heard imaging as bad since Network FM Student radio in Leeds in 1993. Chopped up, faded out, it;s just a shambolic mess



    London's new mixes were done by On The Sly




    https://soundcloud.com/ontheslyproduction/bbc-radio-london-imaging-package-2017-onthesly
  • mbmb February 28
    There is nothing that can make that Macasso package work well
  • GrahamCollinsGrahamCollins February 28
    I must be missing something. Surely the OnTheSly 'imaging' could have been mashed up in-house ?

    Programme snippets edited together and put over a Mcasso bed with the station voice. Not particularly difficult or challenging. Any Studio Manager or Producer could have made them.


  • Listening to the Eddie Nestor Drive time show on BBC Radio London (who wears a fantastic yellow shirt and tie in his presenter picture), he uses an Mcasso bed (guitar riff version), then an On The Sly bed? This appears to be the same with Vanessa Feltz on Breakfast - what's the point? Use one or the other, such a contrast, sounds amateurish (in my opinion)
  • VinnahVinnah March 8
    I can't believe how stale BBC Local Radio is sounding with these current packages. We all thought that the original Mcasso package in 2009 was bad but looking back, it was excellent compared to what they have going on now.

    They have stations with a right mish mash of current, previous, different and then completely third party jingles where nothing flows together. They have travel beds being used for news, programme beds being used for travel, cut and chopped pieces used for whatever and then occasionally the odd jingle which doesn't sound like anything else.

    I thought the idea long term was to turn BBC Local Radio around and make it appeal to a new audience. The first place to start will be to get rid of this absolutely awful package and let the locals do their own thing again (within reason) but no stuffy or pretentious sounding jingles.
  • Vinnah said:

    I can't believe how stale BBC Local Radio is sounding with these current packages. We all thought that the original Mcasso package in 2009 was bad but looking back, it was excellent compared to what they have going on now.

    They have stations with a right mish mash of current, previous, different and then completely third party jingles where nothing flows together. They have travel beds being used for news, programme beds being used for travel, cut and chopped pieces used for whatever and then occasionally the odd jingle which doesn't sound like anything else.

    I thought the idea long term was to turn BBC Local Radio around and make it appeal to a new audience. The first place to start will be to get rid of this absolutely awful package and let the locals do their own thing again (within reason) but no stuffy or pretentious sounding jingles.


    Quite a few stations have just brought in some new Mcasso cuts with a slightly more modern sound. Not sure if this is the new stuff mentioned earlier for the new evening shows? It suggests that Mcasso has quite a way to run yet! Saying that, maybe the 'third party cuts' give some hope that stations are being allowed to do their own thing again.
  • This is a golden opportunity for BBC Local radio to shine now that Independent Local radio has gone down the plug hole now (or about too!)
    It ain't going to sound local by sounding Corporate with these abysmal "Jingle" Packages :-(

    ("Jingles" = beds with stale voiceovers)
  • I've said it before ad nauseum, but BBC Local really need to study how their French counterparts
    over at France Bleu "do it" not just their excellent structured jingles and imaging track record over
    the years but their "layered" approach to local/"department"/regional/national programming.

    And as a modernisation of the "Blue Network", they're aimed at a "grown ups" audience rather than
    BBC Locals mish-mash of "not young" target.
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF March 11
    I don't think the 2015 package is awful, it's just underused. Same beds, same jingles, that same female voiceover on nearly every station.

    If stations want to do their own thing, it's got to sound decent. As we've heard with 3CR/Berkshire, it can be executed poorly
  • The idea with the packages is that all 39 stations DO sound the same all but for the voice talent they choose to use so as the BBC retain the publishing rights and thus receive the royalty payments. They shouldn't be using other tracks, they have over 1000 cuts to choose from.
  • dw1987ukdw1987uk March 11
    JasonRNF said:

    Listening to the Eddie Nestor Drive time show on BBC Radio London (who wears a fantastic yellow shirt and tie in his presenter picture), he uses an Mcasso bed (guitar riff version), then an On The Sly bed? This appears to be the same with Vanessa Feltz on Breakfast - what's the point? Use one or the other, such a contrast, sounds amateurish (in my opinion)


    BBC Essex use the guitar riff for their programmes and news.

    Does anyone have the full guitar riff bed which I could download, please? Preferably the full version as used by Eddie Nestor. I have the 60-second BBC Essex news one, which I cut from iPlayer when it was played with no voiceover once. Happy to share.

    Also, does anyone have a recording of the start of one of Vanessa Feltz's BBC London 9am shows after the Macasso package was introduced in Oct 2015? (She then moved to breakfast in Jan 2016.) The reason I'd like to hear it is that I'm sure the bed is a 'funkier' version of a commonly used Macasso one.

    I've noticed there are lots of slightly different variations of the Macasso stuff, including the guitar riff bed mentioned above - Eddie Nestor's one lasts for a while before looping, but Essex's one is a bit softer and loops after 30 seconds or so (and the news one is looped in a different way to last exactly 60 seconds).

    Thanks!
  • The bed you're after is called:

    2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav

  • JasonRNFJasonRNF March 12

    The idea with the packages is that all 39 stations DO sound the same all but for the voice talent they choose to use so as the BBC retain the publishing rights and thus receive the royalty payments. They shouldn't be using other tracks, they have over 1000 cuts to choose from.



    Exactly what I was thinking, the mcasso ones don't sound that bad. Shame it's underused, some great cuts in there that never see the light of day.

    Berkshire sport is an absolute disaster. A mix of Mcasso and homemade again.

    As for 3CR, I've just read on Twitter that the sound producer is in Soho recording new voiceovers, indicating that more Three Counties imaging is about to be butchered!

    Interesting that BBC Sussex/Surrey are still on the old package..
  • The bed you're after is called:

    2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav



    The full mix sounds great, there are four other mixes of that track, hard, light, classical, etc. They sound okay.

  • mbmb March 13
    over 1000 and outsourcing production to agencies and still it sounds poor there is something very wrong.
    It wasn't written by people who understood Beds, ramps and stings so from the ground up it's not well designed for use. Station like 3CR must be using a minimal number of cuts meaning if there are alot they are wasted, BBC London just sounds chopped up.
  • dw1987ukdw1987uk March 13

    The bed you're after is called:

    2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav



    The full mix sounds great


    Would you be able to make it available via your Soundcloud (or other means) please? ;)
  • I've sent you a message :)
  • Paul+MPaul M March 16
    Would appreciate if someone would send me the 2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav
    I would be very grateful as I am very interested in BBC LR Idents

    Thankyou Very Much
  • I'll see what I can do about uploading some of the different mixes.
  • JasonRNFJasonRNF March 18
    Paul, i've got some more stuff if you would like me to email you?
  • Paul+MPaul M March 19
    Hi Matt and Jason RNF I have personal Messaged you both



  • Does anybody have a copy (or even remember) the (sung) Jingle Package BBC Surrey (and Sussex!) Had before the Mcasso Stuff please?
  • rakrak March 19

    Does anybody have a copy (or even remember) the (sung) Jingle Package BBC Surrey (and Sussex!) Had before the Mcasso Stuff please?



    If they've had Mcasso since 2009, would it have been SCR in those days?

  • JasonRNFJasonRNF March 20
    https://youtu.be/yhvu0P-JcuE

    This is SCR, not sure if its what you're looking for though
  • That's even worse...Yukkk.. :-(
    No they had a Sung Package around about 2008 (I have the "BBC Surrey" travel jingle somewhere)

    Pete
  • RWRW March 20
    To clarify, BBC SCR became BBC Sussex and BBC Surrey in March 2009 with a new (instrumental) jingle package, of which sung variants were introduced the following September. They then went over to Mcasso in June 2010.

    I uploaded some off-air recordings of BBC Surrey jingles from the 2009-10 period here: https://youtu.be/-kfLbEw446E

    Far superior to anything they've had since, it still sounds good a decade on.
  • ahhh.. There the one's...You are so right RW it is so much better than today's crap "BBC Local Radio" Idents!
    Actually I though lord haw hall said that BBC Local Radio was going to be invested in more with station free choice on budget...…(Not on Station identification I assume then?)
    They still all have to sound the same (stale and boring) :-(
  • ahhh.. There the one's...You are so right RW it is so much better than today's crap "BBC Local Radio" Idents!
    Actually I though lord haw hall said that BBC Local Radio was going to be invested in more with station free choice on budget...…(Not on Station identification I assume then?)
    They still all have to sound the same (stale and boring) :-(



    Hall did say he wanted stations to be more individual again and was asked about station identification but did not commit either way.