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Purchasing Classic TM Product from 1970s-80s
  • ntcarver0ntcarver0 January 2
    Hi All,

    So gave the folks at TM a ring a month ago inquiring about the possibility of getting some cuts from various syndicated WBZ packages from the 1970s and 1980s resung. However, I've not heard back. Are they still willing to sell cuts from this era? Any help appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Noah
  • ntcarver0 said:

    So gave the folks at TM a ring a month ago inquiring about the possibility of getting some cuts from various syndicated WBZ packages from the 1970s and 1980s resung. However, I've not heard back.


    Did you speak to a human? If yes, ring back and ask 'em what's the score(!)

  • Have You Checked if the Jingles you want are available via Studio Dragonfly ?

    if so If you want to make Enquire about order the contact

    Is Debbie

    DWestover@westwoodone.com

    Once contract has been processed then

    Carly Reign at TM Studios arranges everything else

    And Greg Clancy deals with the Vocal adaptations
  • ntcarver0ntcarver0 January 2

    ntcarver0 said:

    So gave the folks at TM a ring a month ago inquiring about the possibility of getting some cuts from various syndicated WBZ packages from the 1970s and 1980s resung. However, I've not heard back.


    Did you speak to a human? If yes, ring back and ask 'em what's the score(!)



    No, I left a voicemail. I can't remember the woman's name at the moment, but I think she was a sales rep.

    Have You Checked if the Jingles you want are available via Studio Dragonfly ?

    if so If you want to make Enquire about order the contact

    Is Debbie

    DWestover@westwoodone.com

    Once contract has been processed then

    Carly Reign at TM Studios arranges everything else

    And Greg Clancy deals with the Vocal adaptations



    Yes, I did. No dice.
  • glenglen January 2
    Probably tired from the holiday season.
    Taking a few days off.
  • glen said:

    Probably tired from the holiday season.
    Taking a few days off.

    He left it a month ago & didn't speak to a human. I'm sure the "holiday season" isn't relevant in this case.

  • Noah, as you're under age, maybe they thought you can't pay for any cuts e.g. by credit card?
  • Another problem is that many of the "classic" packages' master tracks were thrown out back in the day. It's depressing, disappointing, and downright infuriating to see that lack of care and preservation. We're very fortunate to have some great collectors who have salvaged and remastered many of those in the years since, which made them available through the former iJingles program. Now...who knows?
  • Another problem is that many of the "classic" packages' master tracks were thrown out back in the day. It's depressing, disappointing, and downright infuriating to see that lack of care and preservation. We're very fortunate to have some great collectors who have salvaged and remastered many of those in the years since, which made them available through the former iJingles program. Now...who knows?



    Good Point even when IJingles was up and running I am sure a lot of the “Classic” TM Cuts only was available due to the Excellent work that TC put in

  • nleibonleibo January 3
    I ordered a re-sing of an Ullman jingle about a year or so ago from TM--spoke with Greg Clancy who got things going for me.
  • ntcarver0ntcarver0 January 3

    Another problem is that many of the "classic" packages' master tracks were thrown out back in the day. It's depressing, disappointing, and downright infuriating to see that lack of care and preservation. We're very fortunate to have some great collectors who have salvaged and remastered many of those in the years since, which made them available through the former iJingles program. Now...who knows?



    I have absolutely no words. What a total disgrace.

    So I'm now guessing that either they didn't think it worth calling me back, or they don't have the masters. I hope it turns out to be the former, but I'm not optimistic at this point.
  • Any extant masters, multi-tracks or sub-masters that aren't digitized (yet? ever?) will be in the safe hands of TC I'm sure.

    But I know from the iJingles days that to pull-out the archived track of one "ancient" cut for one Personal Cut order is likely not a
    viable proposition financially or technically; if someone or a station is willing to go the whole hog and fund a "special", well who knows?

    PS - Len Groat being able to choose the superb 1972 WMAQ Sound of Chicago song a wee while back is something that might happen
    very rarely unless a digital version already existed for an earlier client?
  • ntcarver0ntcarver0 January 7

    Any extant masters, multi-tracks or sub-masters that aren't digitized (yet? ever?) will be in the safe hands of TC I'm sure.

    But I know from the iJingles days that to pull-out the archived track of one "ancient" cut for one Personal Cut order is likely not a
    viable proposition financially or technically; if someone or a station is willing to go the whole hog and fund a "special", well who knows?

    PS - Len Groat being able to choose the superb 1972 WMAQ Sound of Chicago song a wee while back is something that might happen
    very rarely unless a digital version already existed for an earlier client?



    Well, in case you're interested which packages I wanted to snag things from, they were WBZ 1976 and WBZ '85. Here's a montage of the cuts I wanted to order. The demos don't have cut numbers, which is a pain.

    https://sndup.net/6wbc/a
  • mbmb January 7
    Nice cuts full of TM fun!
    I was disappointed that the TM "You" song cut ( the one that was added after the rest of the package was written was not available / in the archive.

  • iJinglesiJingles January 8
    ntcarver0 said:



    Well, in case you're interested which packages I wanted to snag things from, they were WBZ 1976 and WBZ '85. Here's a montage of the cuts I wanted to order. The demos don't have cut numbers, which is a pain.

    https://sndup.net/6wbc/a


    Noah-
    I'm pretty sure the '76 track isn't available (other than on an archived, encoded multitrack tape, so forget it) and as for the '85 cuts, you're looking at silly money to have them sung, even if the tracks are around - somewhere just short of $2000 at a guess. Just wondering if you have that kind of budget? ;) :)
    Nice cuts, btw ;)
    -Sean

  • Sean
    According to his website.Noah is 15 so that's why I said earlier that he would perhaps not seem to be a serious customer in respect of purchasing cuts via normal_to_adult financial channels
  • tcarmantcarman January 9

    Len Groat being able to choose the superb 1972 WMAQ Sound of Chicago song a wee while back is something that might happen very rarely unless a digital version already existed for an earlier client?


    Actually, the reason Len was able to get that cut sung was because I did a 1-to-1 digital transfer of "The Sound Of Chicago" 1/2" 4-track reduction vocal master reel back in 2001. There were a number of "classic" TM packages which I transferred and indexed. So when he wanted the cut sung, the transfer I did was used for the sing. Ditto for the Design '72 Carpenters cut he had sung and also for Ron Sedaille's cuts sung from "Where Your Friends Are".
  • tyty21tyty21 January 11
    noah, nice out of box choices!