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CPMG "Growing With Your City"
  • I'm hesitant to even bring up CPMG after the debacle with that recent thread, but here goes. Does anyone have the demo or any station masters of "Growing With Your City?" It was a custom for WSPD/Toledo in 1982.

    I know I've got it on a cassette Ben Freedman narrated and sent to me some 30 years ago. (Any jingle collector of a certain age knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about and probably has their own.) That tape, sadly, is buried deep in storage. I then thought it may have been included on the "History of WAY Audio/CPMG" that David Hemsley produced, but I just listened and it's not.

    This package has been stuck in my head for days now and I need to actually hear it to remove the earworm ;-)

    Thanks for your help!
  • mbmb August 2018
    Just for fun - Here's the Radio Jackie Version

    https://soundcloud.com/michaelboltona/radio-jackie-80s-jingles-cpmg-2
  • petewilsonpetewilson August 2018
    Am I right in thinking it was originally produced by another Jingle Company before Ben bought it?
    I wouldn't mind hearing the original demo (Pre-CPMG) which I can still remember in the back of my head...somewhere!
  • martinlestermartinlester August 2018
    I always thought they was PAMS jingles , certainly some of the shorter cuts for example Toreledo can depend on WSPD , I have heard on PAMS a demo

    Not 100% sure though

  • PKPK August 2018
    As he manages Ben’s Jingle Guy website I wonder if Norman Barrington might be able to help?
  • PKPK August 2018
    There were also re-sings for 80s pirate stations Radio ERI in Cork and Radio West in Westmeath both in Ireland.
  • gameswizardgameswizard August 2018

    I always thought they was PAMS jingles


    The Radio Jackie package, if I remember rightly, was on the "PAMS Pirates" cassette which I bought from direct from PAMS (Bexleyheath, Kent).
  • mbmb August 2018
    I stand to be corrected but on the CPMG Demos (released on the PAMS International collectors tapes) but I think this (and maybe some other packages) borrowed tracks from PAMS as part of the package. So whilst Growing with your city was mainly custom cuts some PAMS tracks snuck into some packages - I think cut 8 from Growing with your city is an old PAMS track reused.

    https://soundcloud.com/michaelboltona/cpmg-demo-growing-with-your-city-cut-8

    Is it me or was this with Harry Harrison (Or possibly Delilah) on a PAMS demo?
  • martinlestermartinlester August 2018
    mb said:

    I stand to be corrected but on the CPMG Demos (released on the PAMS International collectors tapes) but I think this (and maybe some other packages) borrowed tracks from PAMS as part of the package. So whilst Growing with your city was mainly custom cuts some PAMS tracks snuck into some packages - I think cut 8 from Growing with your city is an old PAMS track reused.

    https://soundcloud.com/michaelboltona/cpmg-demo-growing-with-your-city-cut-8

    Is it me or was this with Harry Harrison (Or possibly Delilah) on a PAMS demo?



    Yes that was used on one of the WABC Demo's

    Any Chance you can post the Full Demo as like most people I only have it on cassette and not easy to play in this digital age

    Thanks

  • IainJohnstonIainJohnston August 2018
    A quick rummage in the tapes cupboard has revealed several old "PAMS Productions" (Bexleyheath)
    cassettes, including ALP13 "Titles" and ALP17 "Customs and Curios".

    I still have a reasonably good Sony MHC-650 twin cassette deck system should anyone want those tapes
    "investigated" or transcribed to "diigettuulll" :^)
  • martinlestermartinlester August 2018
    Thanks
  • IainJohnstonIainJohnston August 2018
    The "Coffee and Music" is definately PAMS (Series 40/41)

    The big "image song" at the end had the inside of my head going "New York Ninety Seven, Double Yoo Wye Enn Wye"
    (...with my apologies to JMW for me even suggesting...)
    Which package came first - the 1982 CPMG or NY97?

    (I'm sure I heard NY97 first in 1980 on a BBC Radio One programme where a certain now-disgraced DJ (one of many...)
    did a bit of New York airchecking - WABC, WYNY, WMCA, etc, because he then had a show on WMCA (TM Live in New York);
    used to have the cassette...somewhere...)
  • martinlestermartinlester August 2018
    I am 99.9% Sure (Unless JMW Says otherwise) that Cut 3 is a PAMS Track !
  • mbmb August 2018
    Listening to the Contempro demo - Lots of those cuts are PAMS tracks too from WLS and KIIS packages / demos resung with the cPMG singers and added into the demo cut list.

    https://soundcloud.com/michaelboltona/contempro-2pams-tracks

    Although I think it was compulsory if you were a DJ on commercial radio in the UK in the 80's to have Mainstream cut 16 resung

    https://soundcloud.com/michaelboltona/mainstream-2cut-16

    Just for fun here are the WhitechapelAM jingles (MHR) from CPMG - We all know the AJ jingles very well - a few know the JAM jingles - these are the CPMG Cuts - On the plus side there
    were about 345,678 mix outs but lets just say they are not my favorite jingles.

    https://soundcloud.com/michaelboltona/mhrjingles




  • IanFIanF August 2018
    "Although I think it was compulsory if you were a DJ on commercial radio in the UK in the 80's to have Mainstream cut 16 resung"

    That's true! Digby Taylor at Signal played his on a regular basis
  • martinlestermartinlester August 2018
    Talking of CPMG anyone got a copy of the PAMS Showcase Cassette, one hour of non-stop jingles

    I have the cassette but have not heard this for well over 15 years

    Thanks in advance
  • mbmb August 2018


    That's true! Digby Taylor at Signal played his on a regular basis

    Thats EXACTLY the one I had in mind hahahahahahhaa

  • radio_blokeradio_bloke August 2018
    I don't think I've heard "Growing with your city" for 35 Years...… kinda nice
  • It wasn't bad, actually! I remember WLNG used a number of the cuts. I should say "use" since they never get rid of anything! LOL

    Thanks to MB for the find :-)
  • petewilsonpetewilson August 2018
    Ok....Here's my version of the song from 1983'ish....

    https://soundcloud.com/ukjingles/growing-with-your-city-wycombe-radio
  • ratnobratnob August 2018
    mb said:



    That's true! Digby Taylor at Signal played his on a regular basis.
    Thats EXACTLY the one I had in mind hahahahahahhaa



    Well, well. As young Bobby Dinan that was the CPMG jingle I craved but couldn't afford. And I thought I was the only one who knew it.
    And this thread reminds me that Digby Taylor and I both had shows on the broadcasting powerhouse that was Hospital Radio Stafford. Small world.
  • tcarmantcarman August 2018

    The "Coffee and Music" is definately PAMS (Series 40/41)



    PAMS Series 41, actually.

  • martinlestermartinlester November 2018
    I asked the Man responsible for the Growing with your City ( Ken Deutsch )

    This is what he told me

    These were ALL sung in Toledo, except for one cut (an alternate vocal on one of them)


    Now that I listened to the link you sent me, I can tell you where the rest of the cuts came from. By the way, this is the first time I ever heard this demo! Ben never sent it to me.



    The long cut 1 was of course all recorded in Toledo, instrumentals and vocals.



    Cut 2 was a PAMS track taken from a 1971 custom package done for KYA in San Francisco! “The people you depend on …” etc.



    Cut 3: same as #2



    Cut #4 All Toledo



    Cut #5 all Toledo



    Cut #6 All Toledo



    Cut #7 All Toledo



    Cut #8 You were correct, this was a PAMS cut from series 41.



    Cut #9 Postcard from Toledo. Here’s the deal on this one. It had nothing to do with Ben, he never ordered it, never paid me for it, etc. This was done as a promotional thing for WSPD, which was in Toledo. I have no idea why it appeared in this demo, and I don’t recall giving Ben permission to use it in any way. It had nothing to do with him.



    This song was written by myself and Mike Sankovich. I wrote the lyrics and the tune and he wrote the arrangement for the whole band. We hired a Dallas singer, Eddie Dunn, to sing lead. And then our Toledo vocal group added all the background vocals. We ended up re-singing this for a number of markets after WSPD’s was a success.


    https://soundcloud.com/martinjlester/growing-with-your-city-donut-ver-2